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Apr. 16th, 2006 08:28 pm (UTC)
Look, there's nothing wrong with SB....
...at some level, it's just a place you can get coffee. It's not frickin' Walmart (SB has benefits, for example). And it's a great place to sit and drink and listen to your music and read. The problem with self-conciously hip places like Capitol Hill is that it creates its own kind of weird peer pressure - any coffee that doesn't come from a non-corporate place must suck. Any patronage of a corporate entity is necessarily evil. In its own stupid way, it's posing just as badly as those who get caught up in what everyone else is doing. /end-rant

Probably closed today, but the local library branch is another spot to try. Free wi-fi.

I hope you and Jym get out today. If it's still too cold, try the Seattle Asian Art Museum in Discovery Park. And of course there is the SF Museum as well.
Apr. 16th, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Look, there's nothing wrong with SB....
See? That's how I figure it too. I actually got at least two dirty looks from passing Cool People though. Fuck 'em. I've found a comfy spot, and I'm not afraid to use it!
Apr. 17th, 2006 06:53 am (UTC)
Re: Look, there's nothing wrong with SB....
I agree. The folks at the local SB are friendly and efficient and as employees they are treated much better than those at the other two coffee establishments in town. Their coffee is consistenly good, too.
Apr. 16th, 2006 08:38 pm (UTC)
finally got out, did you? that's good. starbucks isn't really that bad...at least they try [...unlike walmart]. i love them during winter, because...well. white chocolate mocha with gingerbread syrup + half pump vanilla = so many different kinds of love. other places just don't have the right syrup...though coffee peoples' pumpkin latte.... *stops coffee babble*

make sure to sit by the window, maybe you'll absorb a few precious rays of sunshine
Apr. 16th, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC)
I just had a white chocolate mocha!
[:: high fives ::]

I did, in fact, sit in the sun :)
Apr. 16th, 2006 10:41 pm (UTC)
white chocolate mochas are...perfection. xD they're really good with a bit of raspberry or vanilla syrup in. [yes, i frequently run upwards of 5$ with my drinks...and have a strange inability to drink the last (primarily syrup) bit of coffee]

that's good :3
Apr. 16th, 2006 09:26 pm (UTC)
I'm not cool enough for our neighborhood either.
Yes, always a danger on the weekends. My favorite place up on 15th (Victrola) is always a nightmare if you don't catch it just right.

I do find it amusing though that it seems like non-Seattlites are the most likely to diss Starbucks. Personally? I'm not a fan of how they roast their coffee and most of their non-coffee drinks are too sweet. But they do always seem to do a lot better at space planning than many of the indie coffeeshops--I'm very likely to camp out in a Starbucks, SBC or Tully's rather than anything else.
Apr. 16th, 2006 09:34 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not cool enough for our neighborhood either.
I think this little spot will suit me just fine, actually. I got 2 dirty looks from passing Cool People, but fuck 'em. I'm comfy there.
Apr. 16th, 2006 09:34 pm (UTC)
When I'm jones'ing for a hot chai tea, I'll take a Starbucks anyday.
The hell with being hip and cool.
Apr. 16th, 2006 10:31 pm (UTC)
When I go to Starbucks I just remember that the people who are working there are getting health care insurance and other benefits which most workers at the trendy places aren't making.
Apr. 16th, 2006 10:36 pm (UTC)
I'm a Brit, living a long way outside of London. Thus, Starbucks is still rather a treat and a novelty and somewhere I look forward to going to. So there ya go :)
Apr. 16th, 2006 10:43 pm (UTC)
Okay, didn't Starbucks used top be cool? Am I SOOOOOOOO uncool that I know nothing, nothing?! Okay, I'm a grandma, what do you expect?

I'm just feeling especially silly right now. Must write big sex scene and need a break before I dive in. Hehehehe!

Look out world, sex scene writing grandma :0
Apr. 16th, 2006 10:44 pm (UTC)
What is wrong with Starbucks??? They have good coffee and at a few concerts I went too they were passing out free drinks in 95 degree weather. They won my heart!
Apr. 17th, 2006 01:14 am (UTC)
Ooh, thanks for reminding me about the after-Easter sales!
Apr. 17th, 2006 03:21 am (UTC)
As a Seattlite, I am not a fan of Starbuck's. Not for it's so called "trendiness" or "yuppiness" or anything, but simply for the fact that that not only are they positively everywhere, and they over-roast their beans (IMO). Their coffee is a special kind of bitter (hehe!).

My personal preference was alas, bought out by Starbuck's a few years ago-that being Seattle's Best. Very very nummy coffee. Though I haven't had it since it got bought out... so I couldn't tell ya now.

Honestly, I can see why the trendy places turn up their noses at Starbucks. Like WalMart, they are rather conglomerate (like I said above: everywhere!), and thus, make it much more difficult for the ma & pa places to survive and earn any money.

But, I will give you points for the health benefits and CS tidbits. :-)
Apr. 17th, 2006 03:40 am (UTC)
I'm all about supporting local business, but Starbucks has high enough prices that the locals can compete just fine. Besides, in Seattle Starbucks is a local business.
Apr. 17th, 2006 02:53 pm (UTC)
hee hee

Somehow I keep thinking, "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me!'

It sounds like Seattle is teeming with conformity issues. :] You're too beautiful to be squished into a mould like that.
Apr. 18th, 2006 03:05 am (UTC)
Mmmmm Starbucks...
Hope you had a great Easter Cherie :)
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:40 am (UTC)
My old office
When I was first up here trying to get a job (which turned out to be a 360 day adventure), as part of The Great Move{TM}, I tended to use Starbucks as my "office". I could go in, plug in my notebook, use the WiFi (which I had in an unlimited-use plan, grandfathered from when it was VoiceStream rather than T-Mobile), and generally look for work without much fuss at all. Just like the situation you describe -- I had to get out of the house, because otherwise I'd mope around entirely too much.

My own biggest surprise, coming up here from LA, was how early Starbucks tends to close. Especially because, as you say, Seattle is supposed to be hip, with it, etc, and closing as early as they do is just dullsville, baby. There is not a Starbucks on the Eastside that closes later than 9PM. The University Village one probably stays open the latest, and it closes at Midnight. And the other thing is, they always have to kick crowds out. So they're basically kicking out paying customers, refusing to take their money. Yet another way in which Amurrican business is willing to turn away dollars for to hang on to control any day.

If you're interested, I could show you the Starbucks in town with a) a secret upstairs table/office, b) a roof deck, c) a view, and d) open 'til 11PM.

Oh, but here's a downside to using Starbucks as an office (or at least it was in the 2001-02 timeframe I'm talking about): Amway/Quixtar. I don't know how the idea spread, but if you look like you're a business-y type person and you hang out in a Starbucks long enough, some poor deluded soul who has never heard the word "Ponzi" will come along and try to invite you to an Amway meeting. This happened often enough, and in enough different places, that it must be in a manual somewhere.
Apr. 21st, 2006 05:20 pm (UTC)
Re: My old office
Thanks - but I've gotten accustomed to Aurafice ... and I think I rather like it as an office. Less crowded, and I can pilfer wireless from some source nearby :)
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